At 11:10 AM 7/21/2003 -0700, you wrote: >them temporarily disabled them in response. The latest visitor to Fore and >Four Tenths appears to be clueless about trail closures though. What is not >to understand about a trail closed sign? Maybe we should log notes to those While I may or may not agree with the forest closures, the fact remains that the forest is closed, and the fine for being caught out there is VERY steep. I think that keeping the status of the cache updated is just a normal part of cache maintenance. If the area is closed, then the cache should be disabled and it should be the responsibility of the cache hider/owner to keep current on that. >caches that are in closed areas and/or communicate with the cache owners. I >can see if the cache owner is from out of town that they might not know the >conditions near their cache, which is one reason the latest version of the >rules indicate not approving caches by people on vacation in an area who >can't easily maintain their caches. With the exception of virtual caches, I think it is a pretty decent idea to not place a cache while on vacation. I am not sure that it should be a rule, as I don't think that there should be rules with geocaching, but it is a good guideline. Scott scott@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com