I was just reading some reports on what they had to do to save the observatory and I really doubt that the Tucson Top geocache still exists. That is a real shame, that one was high on my list of caches I wanted to get this summer. It was actually high on my list last summer, along with the Scary cache that burnt up last year, but was never able to get up there due to the forest closures. On that note, I have set In Hot Water as temp. disabled. There is no access to the mountain right now, and with that being the case, there is no access to my cache. Scott scott@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com