Velcro an ALTOIDS and make it a non virtual cache just a thought ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Schwarz" To: Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 5:12 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache 71199 description > Well, looks like the powers that be at geocaching.com set it up > so nobody but me can see it, even if you ARE logged in. Drats. > > Here's the text of the description I submitted, just to satisfy > any curiousity anyone may have about my ill-fated virtual cache. > Or if anyone wants to try to locate the thermometer, even though you > won't increase your numbers for anything by doing so. This does > require a 2 mile round trip hike, with 500 feet of elevation gain. > Unless you're doing more of the Groom Creek trail. Again, if > anyone does locate it, let me know via an email. And if someone > who lives in the Prescott area wishes to place a physical cache > near it, that would be great: > > NAME: What's the Temperature? > > N 34 27.750 W 112 25.526 > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Get a little workout, make a weather observation, and score a cache. > > --------------------------------------------------- > > RATING: 1.5/2.5 > > --------------------------------------------------- > > This is probably the first cache in Arizona that asks you to make a > meteorological observation! > > I don't like to have people driving around in circles trying to figure out > where to park, and contributing to air pollution. So, drive south from > Prescott on the paved Senator Highway, go about 6 miles, and park at the > Groom Creek trailhead parking lot, at N 34 27.881, W 112 26.448. There is > a 2 dollar forest service fee there. Then put on your hiking boots and > walk just over a mile up the 307 trail, with about 500 feet of elevation > gain, to a thermometer in the middle of nowhere. > > What is a thermometer doing HERE, of all places? Beats me. I didn't place > it here, but it's been here for over 10 years. I first noticed it after > relieving myself in the early 1990's, long before geocaching started, just > north of the the trail. As I walked back, the white color of the > instrument caught my eye. It is located on the back side of a tree within > 10 feet of the trail. > > I'm sure at least a few other people have spotted this thermometer, but no > one has removed it during the 11 years or so I've known of its existence; > and for all I know, it may have been there for years before the early > 1990's. It is NOT in a wilderness area, just a regular National forest > area, so it doesn't violate any wilderness ethics. The numbers showing 50, > 60, 70, 80 degrees have definitely faded with time, but are still readable. > > You will need to look at 2 words on the thermometer. At the top there is > one word (probably brand name); write that down. In the lower left, below > minus 60 degrees (doubt it ever gets anywhere near that cold here), is a > word followed by 3 initials (probably the company name); write that down. > This item in the lower left is faded and a bit hard to read, so I will > accept reasonable fascimiles of what it says. The word on top is still > very clear, however. > > To get credit for this virtual cache, you will need to email me (Mike) with > the word at the top, and the word plus 3 initials on the lower left of the > thermometer. Make sure you do NOT post your answers here, even if encrypted. > > Then, note the temperature reading on the thermometer, and please DO post > that with your log, along with the time of day. It will be interesting to > see how the readings vary with whether its early morning or afternoon, > whether its rained recently, and of course, the time of year. For the > record, it read 73 degrees at 5 PM on 5/25/2003. > > When you get to the listed coordinates, at about 6920 feet elevation, look > on the back side of a tree within 10 feet of the trail, on the north side > of the trail. This is a ponderosa pine forest, and even though the trees > aren't real tall here, GPS signals can be degraded some. If you don't find > the thermometer right away, search in a 40-foot radius. The trail isn't > too high-traffic, but in case a group of hikers or horseback riders comes > by when you are at the thermometer, be discrete and try not to draw > attention to it until they pass. As with a physical cache container, we > don't want those who don't currently know about the thermometer to know of > its existence, and possibly decide to remove it. > > If you feel so inclined, and have the time, continue on up the trail to the > summit of Spruce Mtn. This will be a 6 mile roundtrip hike, with 1400 feet > of elevation gain total. Or, if you're really ambitious, do the full 9 > mile loop hike clockwise. If you haven't been to the Spruce "Wild > Goose" Cache yet, that cache awaits you near the summit, just 1.5 miles > from here! So, score 2 caches on this hike, not just this one! > > Have fun contributing to the climatic records for Arizona! > > --------------------------------------------------- > > HINT: > Some shrubbery guards the approach to the back side of the tree; it's not > very open there. However, I have yet to wear long pants on this trail. > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Mike > Team Malthusian > > Brian wrote: > > > >Message: 1 > >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 21:38:14 -0700 > >From: Brian Cluff > >To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Thermometer Virtual Cache rejected :( > >Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > > > >Mike Schwarz wrote: > >> The cache is now in an archived state, and I believe it will > >> be viewable IF you are logged in to geocaching.com, at this URL: > >> > >> http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=71199 > > > >> N 34 27.750 W 112 25.526 > > > >Looks like it won't let anyone but you view the cache, even if you are > >logged in. I was going to add it to the list of archived caches, so > >that people could get credit for logging it. > >Oh well.. It seemed interesting to me. > > > >Brian Cluff > >Team Snaptek > > > > > >--__--__-- > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com