When we don't have Dan's digital camera (like, he isn't with me) I can take a pic with my good ol' 35 mm....a disposable is a good alternative....and after getting them developed scan them onto my computer...OOPS...that brings up a different "special equipment" issue, a scanner.....SORRY didn't mean to..... muddy the waters! ha ha ha I guess my point is that a digital camera, while the easier way to get pics online, isn't the only way. "Where there is a WILL you will find a WAY" (and let's hope with a minimum of whining.... :-) Trisha "Lightning" Prescott On Thu, 15 May 2003 21:49:38 -0700 (PDT), Ken Akerman wrote: If a virtual cache REQUIRED you to take a picture of you and your GPS (or something like that) in order to receive credit for that cache..   However, you don't need to use a digital camera to take a picture and post it to Geocaching.com.  You can get a very inexpensive camera (like a disposable camera for around $5), take pictures, develop them using a service that provides you with free pictures online (like Photoworks.com), and upload the online picture to your cache log.  This is what I did for virtual and locationless caches before I obtained my digital camera.   This is not as easy as using a digital camera, and you may have to wait several days after visiting a virtual cache before you can obtain the picture and post it to your log entry, but it is an inexpensive way to get a picture for a virtual cache entry.   Ken (a.k.a. Highpointer)