My first opinion is that it doesn't matter what the cost is, if special equipment is required to find the cache then it should be a five. My definition of special equipment is equipment that not everyone may reasonably be expected to own, have access to or be able to operate. I think that ya'll are missing the point with this latest thread. Either that or it's incredibly humorous and my humor skill hasn't kicked in yet. Anyway, neither a pen or a camera are required to find a cache. They may be respectively required to log and provide verification but not to FIND. Special equipment, IMO, is something needed to find the cache, everything else is just the owner's or the cache finder's preference. Pretend numbers don't matter. I know it'll be an effort for some here but try. You don't log your finds in the log book, you don't log them online and you don't trade items. Now, what special items are needed during your cache trip? Eric Team Dragon --- Aus Dem Kasten wrote: > I was reading a cache desrciption today that said I > needed to bring my > own pen to log my visit. > >RopingThe Wind wrote: > > > >>I know this thread just kinda went to rest, but, I > have a very valid > >>question: If a virtual cache REQUIRED you to take > a picture of you and your > >>GPS (or something like that) in order to receive > credit for that cache.. > >>then, wouldnt a camera be considered 'special > equiptment'? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com