At 11:55 AM 5/8/2003 -0700, you wrote: >I take the meaning of "special equipment" to mean that you absolutely cannot >get the cache without it. This cache seems to be EASIER with a mountain >bike, but hardly an ABSOLUTE necessity. A 17 mile trek, while maybe a pain, >is certainly not impossible on foot. Might merrit a 4, maybe a 4.5. However, if there is a prohibition to accessing the area without a mountain bike, then it is an absolute necessity. Scott scott@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com