At 10:55 PM 5/7/2003 -0700, you wrote: >I think this is the case. It seems that some have a different opinion on >what a level should be. This would include myself. Even though I think >that I have followed the guild lines and even used the geocaching rating >system, it needs to be much more uniformed so all will really know what to >expect. If they had used the rating system on the site when listing it, >they would have had a much higher rating (I think a 5 for special equipment) That's my point. I don't currently own a mountain bike, because of that I would have to buy, borrow or rent a bike in order to do this cache. To me, that means that it is special equipment. Scott scott@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com