I would think the easiest answer would be for the owner to call and ask.
Sure, it would be great if the state would log the retrieval or send the
owner and email, but it sounds like they did leave notice.  I've only read
bits of what's been posted to the listserv, but my understanding is that the
State Land Dept. has been one of the easier agencies to work with.

CacheLess
Bill Tomlinson

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Steven
Stringham
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 8:57 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wyle C TB - lost for good?


At Black Cave cache
(http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=41190&log=y&decrypt=),
the cache has been take by the AZ State Lands Dept.

And they don't seem to have notified the cache owner at all. If it was by an
archiological site, I can see the desire to have it removed. But, why did
they not communicate with the owner of the cache?

And secondaryly, Wyle C was in that cache (at least, according to the logs).
So, does the state need to release the cache contents to the owner, or is
Wyle C needing to be recreated and released anew?

While we have a responsibilty to keep our caches from the arch. sites, does
the government have no responsibilities here? Or, does the note that was
left constitute notification?

From the logs:
April 14 by WhereRWee? (258 found)
Sounds like the AZ Land department did not like this one. They never sent me
a note advising of the sensitive nature of the cache placement so I have
disable it.

April 13 by seigell (seigell) (17 found)
Made the hike up from Cow Creek Rd ( 3.7 Mi RT ). Saw some burros, some
javellina, a snake ( no rattle ), and the cave. But, alas, no cache. There
was a note posted by the AZ State Lands Dept. about Black Cave being an
Archeological Site under seurveillance. And a baggie with half of a GeoCache
form stating the Cache had been Removed on 3/5/03 by a T.D.P.



Steven Stringham
StringCachers


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