ya we have a paypal account i should prob put a link on the web site front page... a couple people have actually donated a while back too... donate@azgeocaching.com jason snaptek azgeocaching.com Bill Tomlinson wrote: > I'm in. Do you guys have a paypal account? > > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Regan > Smith > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:24 AM > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods > > > I say we all donate a $ to Jason and Brian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Groover" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:15 AM > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods > > > >>Personally I am torn about registering. The impression I have gotten >>over the last year and a half of the people who run the geocaching.com >>web site is not very favourable (which I won't go into here), however >>I get a great deal or fun out of the site. I don't like giving money >>to people I don't think I like, but I see that running a web site for >>free is > > hard/impossible. > >>So I've been stuck in this quandry ever since the "charter membership" > > thing > >>appeared. >>I guess if they turned around and said "we are going to implement X, Y >>and > > Z > >>to make it easier for handicap people to gague the real accessiblity >>of a cache" (of which I have posted ideas on the site in the past) >>then that would definately give me a big enough push to register. As >>for anything else, I don't know... >> >>Sigh.... >> >>Andy >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com >>[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of >>Bill Tomlinson >>Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:56 AM >>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com >>Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods >> >> >>Andy, >> >>It would take a bit of work, but I would think that you could re-log >>all > > of > >>your old finds with your new name and then delete the old finds. > > Geocaching > >>lets you specify the find date, so you would still have an accurate > > history. > >>As for geocaching.com, I doubt that the issue is hoarding data or > > bandwidth. > >>Both of those are already irrelevant because data is being grabbed by >>many crawlers already and that isn't a terribly efficient mechanism. >>I'm > > willing > >>to bet that the issue is simply resources. Design and implementation >>of a system that all would be happy with could be a very difficult >>task. Look how long it's taken just to change the numbering scheme. >>And that's a > > time > >>critical issue. I imagine of more people were willing to register we > > would > >>see much better services in exchange. Personally, I don't much care >>if people choose register. We just need to be aware of the >>implications of those decisions. I chose to register because I'm >>interested in seeing new features like this. >> >>CacheLess >>Bill Tomlinson >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com >>[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of >>Andrew Ayre >>Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:06 AM >>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com >>Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods >> >> >>I don't think the problem is so much MO caches as the fact that >>geocaching.com appears IMO to want to horde the data and not share it >>with sites like azgeocaching.com by providing a backdoor entry into >>specific sections of the database. I cannot see how providing access >>to the AZ only caches would cause a problem for geocaching.com (in >>terms of rivalry worries, etc - I'm sure it would increase the >>bandwidth used). >> >>We recently changed our name from "Groover" to "Team Spike". This has >>completely messed up our team stats on the azgeocaching.com site, as >>it relies on reading cached pages. Well, archived caches never get >>their > > pages > >>re-cached, therefore those caches will eternally be attributed to > > "groover" > >>on azgeocaching.com, wheras the actual data in the geocaching.com >>database must be correct. >> >>As a result I've resorted to making a copy of all log entries on my >>own > > web > >>site, so at least I have a copy of my own data that I can manipulate >>in my own database and know it is always correct and accurate. >>Unfortunately I don't have time to write code to generate graphs and >>other wonderful stuff that can be found on azgeocaching.com. >> >>Andy >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com >>[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of >>Scott Nicol >>Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:33 AM >>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com >>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods >> >> >> >> >>Ok. I don't usually fuss with much, but this one definetly irritates >>me. I am one of those 'numbers' cachers. I do enjoy looking at the >>stats and the numbers (for my own pleasure of course, not for >>competitive purposes). I > > am > >>a bit annoyed that 9 of my in state cache finds now show up as out of > > state. > >>This is the result of 8 AZ caches becoming 'members only' caches. >>These > > are > >>caches that previously (when I found them), where not MO. What happens >>is that the AZgeocaching.com site is not a member, therefore it doesnt >>crawl the MO cache pages. (that is what I have heard anyways). At any >>rate, the > > AZ > >>stats doesnt recognize Arizona MO caches and they show up in the out >>of state file. (anyone who knows me knows that I have 0 out of state >>finds > > and > >>probably always will!). >> >>I personally beleive that if a cache is started out as a 'free' cache, >>it should remain that way for the life of the cache. If someone >>chooses to > > make > >>their caches members only, they should do so with only the new caches >>that they place and not turn all their old caches into MO caches. I >>know Highpointer recently commented on this on the listserve a few >>days ago and that he was going to change his caches over to MO. I >>understand his views > > on > >>the subject. However, Highpointer...I feel you should keep your old >>caches open to all and if you want members only, perhaps only turn >>your new ones into MO. The other problem I have with old caches >>changing into MO... I no longer can look back on those caches and read >>my logs (diary if you will) > > of > >>my experiences at those caches (as I am not a member of >>geocaching.com; > > that > >>is a whole nuther' thread, I am sure!). I hope Highpointer will >>reconsider changing his old caches back to non-MO. >> >>I have always enjoyed doing Highpointer's caches, he hides some good >>ones. > > I > >>also very much appreciate his seeking my cache on Stewart Mountain and >>the comments he left there. I think me and Highpointer share many of >>the same views on geocaching and enjoy doing the same types of caches. >> >>I guess I will not be able to do anymore of Highpointer's caches as I >>am > > not > >>a member of geocaching.com. However, I have no problem with his making >>his new caches MO, Members Only caches are available as an option to >>members > > of > >>geocaching.com and that is an option that is available to him to use >>if he chooses to. I just wish he would reconsider and keep his older >>caches open to all. >> >>Scott >>Team Ropingthewind >> >> >> >> >> >>>From: Brian Cluff >>>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com >>>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com >>>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods >>>Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:12:21 -0700 >>> >>>Yes, if caches are being moved to members only that were previously >>>available to anyone, they will show up as out of state. >>> >>>Brian Cluff >>>Team Snaptek >>> >>>Regan Smith wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Would the new out of state finds be a result of the Member Only >>>>Caches? >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >> >>____________________________________________________________ >>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com >>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: >>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching >> >>Arizona's Geocaching Resource >>http://www.azgeocaching.com >> >>____________________________________________________________ >>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com >>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: >>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching >> >>Arizona's Geocaching Resource >>http://www.azgeocaching.com >> >>____________________________________________________________ >>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com >>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: >>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching >> >>Arizona's Geocaching Resource >>http://www.azgeocaching.com >> >>____________________________________________________________ >>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com >>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: >>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching >> >>Arizona's Geocaching Resource >>http://www.azgeocaching.com > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com > To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com