Or geeks like me that use geocaching.com pocket queries to grab all of the caches and logs in .gpx files and dump them into a SQL database so we can slice the data in many ways including manipulating the names into a meaningful format like VC1234. (how's that for a run on sentence?) CacheLess Bill Tomlinson -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Jason Poulter thats why you download the waypoint files off the azgeocaching.com that tell you what type of cache it is based on the icon... etc... you can see what type it is so you can decide quickly.... :)