Wow! Scott Nichol said a mouthfull on this subject. It turns out I agree with you - to the extent that when I place a cache, I would like it to have some sort of meaning. Although I have 180 finds, I have not placed a cache yet because I entered the realms of this hobby just as I was leaving another state (thus not able to maintain a cache if I place it there), and I didn't know the ins and outs of this state (which is why I brought up the "trespassing" question). So we will be placing caches because that is another aspect of this game that we want to enjoy. In the meantime, the kids and I are thoroughly enjoying the search aspect of the game. Mark A. Pederson __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com