At 06:54 PM 1/3/2003 -0700, you wrote: >as many are easy without a hike. The one cache in question where you do not >have to leave the car is the one at Wildlife Zoo - simply drive up, look out >the window and you have the answer. Many times on the urban caches we are I believe that you are referring to "Courage" which is a cache my Team Zulu. >Is there any thought to having different list serves that groups like minded >people together? We are much more interested in unique 4 wheel drive type >caches then urban caches and would love to connect with other like minded >people. I have given this some thought also. I have been into 4 wheeling for years, but took a few years off recently when I didn't have a 4x4. We bought a Toyota Land Cruiser last year and have been having a great time combining 4 wheeling and cache hunting. I agree about the desire for 4 wheel drive type caches, and there are a few out there that we are planning on hitting in the near future. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com