This is my first post (please, please, hold the applause). ...you can always get yourself an ATV... If driven responsibly they tread very lightly due to the light weight and 3 psi tires and are virtually impossible to get stuck. Hey Scott, maybe Brian and I will gain a little headroom with regard to number of finds on ya this winter by using the ATVs up north/east... well, ok, we have a loooooooooooong way to go. I think geocaching in several feet of snow will add a whole new degree of difficulty. :-) Mike Team Leaplab ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Nicol" To: Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] "Obsessed geocacher found stuck in mud, film at 11" > > >From: trisha@brasher.com > >Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > >To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] "Obsessed geocacher found stuck in mud, film > >at 11" > >Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:57:34 -0800 (PST) > > > >(disclaimer: the following is meant in FUN, but has an important > >message imbedded in the sarcasm. Please remember that I have had to > >deal with people who go where they shouldn't and get stuck. It > >happens.) :-) > > > >Yeah, that's a smart idea, Scott. Go in the morning when the mud is > >"still frozen" (i.e. ICE). Drive on ICY dirt roads, that's a great > >idea. (Hope you have good comprehensive insurance!! :-)) Oh, be sure > >to go WAY back in the boonies, at least 8 miles from the nearest paved > >road. Stay long enough for it to warm up enough for the ICE to turn > >into impassable mud............. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Just to clear this up.. :) > > That message about driving on the ice before it turns muddy was made by one > of the Snaptek boys. Not me! > > MY message was to ask whether the roads are passable in the winter and > whether they are MUDDY or not. Do they dry up quickly or do they stay muddy > all winter long? I hate mud! AND I dont like to drive on dirt roads when > they are muddy! It irritates me (to say the least) when I am driving down a > forest/dirt road and it is all rutted up. There is nothing more annoying > than that. As Trisha said.. these roads are not really maintained and if > they become very rutted up.. they will probably stay that way! > > I can think of many dirt roads that used to be very smooth. Then, I come > back months later to find it all rutted up after a heavy rain because > someone drove down it when it was muddy. When it dries... it becomes a very > bumpy road and it will likely stay that way for a long time to come. > > Now, there are those folks that perhaps need to use these roads.. like > forest workers, those who man the towers, folks who work on the radio > towers, etc. But, for the rest of us who are just out there on a > recreational level.. probably dont need to be out there. I fall into that > catagory. I have no interest in driving on muddy roads. It is no fun. Now, I > love a good off road challenge... but, mud is not one of them! > > Anyways, just wanted to clear that up!!!!! > > Scott > Team Ropingthewind > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > listserv@azgeocaching.com > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com