Hmm...guess I am dense today, Regan, I don't get the "R" thing... Scott, I don't know about the ShowLow area, but around Prescott they only keep the major forest roads open (plowed), and sometimes not even those. For example, Senator Hwy (FR 52) from Prescott to Crown King is not maintained past a certain point, (someplace after Groom Creek and all the campgrounds) unless private land owners do it. The "Cleator" Road off of I-17 is kept plowed for the Crown King residents. Some places have gates that are locked, to keep people out for their OWN protection (and for the safety of the SAR folks who have to go find them and get them out.) For example, the main road on Mingus Mtn. The smaller roads may have a barricade, or nothing. You would have to inquire at the local FS office where you want to go, that would be my best advice for local conditions. And I would be very careful even if there isn't much snow but it is muddy. Getting stuck is very easy if it is muddy. If it isn't too wet, and no storm is approaching, you are probably OK. Trisha "Lightning" Prescott On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, "Regan Smith" wrote: > > Just don't be adding no R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Nicol" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:22 AM > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Cache entropy > > > > > > > > >From: trisha@brasher.com > > >Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > > >To: "Arizona Geocaching" > > >Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache entropy > > >Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:51:47 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >"In time, all caches will devolve and entropy will be achieved" ~ > > >Steve, of Team Tierra Buena > > > > > > > > >I love this quote. Should be added to Denny's on the azg-c > webpage!!!! > > > > > >My new motto (in a vain attempt to stall the inevitable entropy) > > >"Cache IN, Trash OUT, Trade UP" > > > > > >Trisha "Lightning" > > >Prescott > > > > > >SNOW approaches, as do tire chains, thermal undies, and COLD search > > >and rescues! > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > Trisha and all, > > > > Speaking of SNOW... I have a question.... > > > > Do all the forest routes in the high country (like Mogollon Rim and > Show > Low > > area, etc) literally CLOSE during the winter? Or do they simply not > maintain > > them? Snow, nor sleet, nor hail, nor any weather phenom will keep me > from > > caching! I would like to get up to the high country yet and do some > caching. > > I go to ALBQ often as well and would like to be able to get a few > caches > > while going thru Show Low and Pinetop areas. > > > > I wonder what the condition of the forest roads are like in the > winter? If > > there is no snow on the ground (inbetween snows) are the roads > passable or > > do they stay really muddy all winter long? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Scott > > Team Ropingthewind > > http://www.safwp.bravepages.com/geocaching.html > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > listserv@azgeocaching.com > > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > > http://www.azgeocaching.com > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > listserv@azgeocaching.com > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Although no one can go back and make a brand new start, Anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~