Steve, ROTFLMAO about your suggested new organization "Geocachers Against Stewards Badmouthing All Geocachers" (GASBAG). I'll join. Bob --- Team Tierra Buena wrote: > I am NOT trying to defend this woman, but she does > say "as of September > 5", which was three weeks before the meeting. It's > probably true that > there hadn't been any caches pulled at that time. > > But I'd love to know how many members of SAGAS there > are. > > Maybe we could form Geocachers Against Stewards > Badmouthing All > Geocachers. > > Steve > Team Tierra Buena > > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] > On Behalf Of > WOLFB8 > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:26 PM > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] RE: grrrrrrrrr more mis > information from > the site stewards > > > oooppppssss there a few errors from the scan and > being her phone number > did not scan correctly so here is the number > (928)684-1670...just > incase some knows how to fix a fence post the number > 2 major issue in > her area > We will be known by the tracks we leave behind > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: WOLFB8 > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:15 PM > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] RE: grrrrrrrrr more mis > information from > the site stewards > > This is the second article that ken found > ....scanned in > > Hassayampa Region > > Submitted by > > Shelley Rasmussen, Regional Coordinator > > We seem to be gradually working toward settling the > issue of geacaching > that h05 impacted several archaeclogical sites in > the area. There has > been communication with the geo-cachers, who have > told us that they > would move their yea- caches away from the sites and > take the > coordinates off the internet. As of September 5, no > one has removed the > geo-caches in question. Perhaps by the time this > newsletter is out, we > > will hove more[6 success. A~- long vs the > archaeological sites are on > their website, anyone (including looters) hove free > access to the > location of these sites. I would like to thank the > Stewards Against > Geo-caching Archaeological Sites (SAGAS) who hove > helped so much, us > well as those from other regions who hove > volunteered their time and > effort - some hove helped who are not even Site > Stewards. This has been > a group effort and I hope to be able to say at some > point that it will > be a success story > > > > There is another important issue with which this > region is dealing. Two > historic cemeteries hove each had a corner post fail > down and some of > the barbed wire fencing is laying on the ground. Is > there anyone with > some knowledge of fence repair who can help to fix > these fences? If so, > please contact me at (928) 684~~67O. > > We will be known by the tracks we leave behind > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] RE: grrrrrrrrr more mis > information from > the site stewards > > I agree it is nice to see that there are > rational minds among the > Site Stewards. I think the most disturbing comment > that Shelly Rasmussen > made in the November issue of the Site Stewards > newsletter is contained > on page 8 & 9. In this section of the newsletter > Shelly apparently has > formed her own little anti geocaching group that she > calls "Stewards > Against Geocaching Archaeological Sites" (SAGAS). > Her comments and > extremely narrow views regarding our hobby appear to > be deliberate acts > to try and tear down the positive efforts that have > been made to resolve > conflicts. I think she is a very poor representative > for a program that > has very honorable intentions and I do not > understand her blatant hatred > of our hobby. She states in her column that no > geocaches have been > removed which is not true. Shortly after the meeting > with the land > managers I archived two of my caches that were near > archaeological sites > . Shelly fails to mention this fact in the > newsletter. > > Ken > WhereRWee? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Team Tierra Buena > > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:06 PM > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] RE: grrrrrrrrr more mis > information from > the site stewards > > Jill, > > Permit me to add my thanks for your post. It is > comforting to know that > we are not the objects of universal hostility among > the Site Stewards. > > Steve > Team Tierra Buena > > > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] > On Behalf Of Jill > McCormick > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 5:06 PM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: grrrrrrrrr more mis > information from the > site stewards > > > > I just wanted to put in my two cents on this issue. > I have been reading > the messages regarding the article in the AZ Watch > written by Shelly > Rasmussen. I am a site steward and would like to > say that she does not > represent all site stewards, in fact, I think most > site stewards > disagree with her views. I do not geocache myself, > but hope to in the > near future. I am the regional coordinator for the > Yuma Region and have > an avid geocacher in my group. I also have a few > sites with caches near > them, but I have never had any trouble with > vandalism at these sites. > As a site steward our job is to monitor and carry > out the wishes of the > land managers, not be the police, judge, and jury > regarding geocaching. > As I understood it from speaking with Mary Estes, > you had a productive > meeting on September 27th, and had high hopes for > future cooperation. I > also understand that many landmanagers have no > problem with geocaching, > nor do they have policies against it. Please do not > allow Ms. > Rasmussen's comments to undo the good that has been > done. I plan to > speak to Mary Estes myself and ask her to no longer > allow Ms. Rasmussen > to publicly speak as if she was speaking for all > site stewards. > Hopefully this will put an end to this issue. Keep > up the good work. > > Sincerely, > Jill McCormick > Regional Coordinator Yuma-Quartzsite > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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