Thank you. >From: "WOLFB8" >Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com >To: >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] gggrrrrrrrrrr more mis infromation from the >site stewards >Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:04:38 -0700 > >Mike and Gale below is the article that is being talked about right >now...... > >I guess what really has me upset at this point in time is that fact that >the article is in the November 2002 issue of the watch.... this is over a >month since the meeting happened...and there has been allot of time to >rewrite it so that the true story was told... > >the fact that all site stewards have now been misinformed and this was >allowed... To me the way the article was place in the new letter did not >look like a editorial....it reads the same as the rest of the new letter >and seems to present it self as a "guild line to follow" > > >I am planning on attending the steward training program this month so >hopefully will be allowed to respond to this article in the dec issues of >the watch... > > > > > > > > >NEW OUT DOOR GAME IMPACTS ARCHAEOLOGY >By Shelley Rasmussen, Site Steward > >in May oF 2000, the Clinton Administration took the restrictions off the >OPS (Global Positioning System) to a!low the coordinates to be more >accurate f0r civilians. Within a few days, geocaching was born. Since then, >geocaching has become international, encompassing 134 countries and, as of >August 2, 2002, there are over 34,000 active geocache sites. There are also >over 800 geocaches in Arizona and the number is rt'sing exponentially. > > >what is geocaching? it is a high tech scavenger hunt that requires a >computer; a OPS and in many cases a four wheel drive vehicle or an API. To >play this game, the coordinates of a geocache are given on the internet, >and then the idea is to go out into the field to find the cache, using a >GPS. The cache is usually a Tupperware bow!, ammo can or plastic bucket. >Within the container am trinkets or toys that the geocachers are to take >one and leave one and return to the web site to disCuss their adventure, as >well as, to keep track of how many geocaches they have Found. This is a >great way to hone your navigational skills and a fun Family or group >experience. > > >The problem that we have, as Site Stewards and members of the >archaeological community, is that there are many archaeological sites that >are being used for placing geocaches. The impact to these archaeological >sites has been dramatic with artifacts being removed and in some cases the >confidentiality of the location of the sites having been compromised. The >environmental impact is also damaging, where the ATV's have driven off the >roads and beaten new trails to the sites. > > >There is a rule on the geocache web site > >o ~AMP~klPAC Lb > > >that claims that permission shouid be asked to place the cache whether it >is located on private or pu6lic land. There is also a paragraph that states >that as of May 28, 2002, archaeological sites are not to be used for >geocaching and any caches located at or near an archaeological site should >be moved. So far, no one has acknowledged this rule. > > >The land managers are working on pollcies dealing with this issue. Arizona >State Land Department has proclaimed that geocaching is not allowed on >Arizona State Trust Lands and geocaches will be confiscated and in order to >claim their cache, the coordinates are given to the downtown office for >Arizona State Trust Lands. BtM~s policy is that geocoching is permitted on >their public land us long as the geocachers stay out of wilderness areas as >well as cultural resource sites and special fragile areas. Maricopa County >Parks discourages geacaching in the County ~arks and, not allowing >geocachiny at archaeological sites, > > >We have no problem with geocaching, as long as the geocachers follow their >own rules and stay away from the archaeological sites and be careful not to >impact the environment in a negative way. We just ask for responsible >geocaching. > > >To find out if there is geocaching going on in your area, go to > >AKChALQ >http://www.geocaching.com and enter your zip code. You will get a list of >geacaches in the area and when you select one, you will gala read out and a >map showing the geocache locations, as well as the coordinates. > > >As thIs newsletter goes to print, Mary Estes, the State Program Coordinator >and Steve Gross, representing the Arizona geocachers, are planning a >meeting to open dialogue between the Arizona Site Stewards and the >geocachers. Representatives of the Site Program and various land managers >have also been invited. We will report the results of this meetin~ in the >next > >WATCH. > >We will be known by the tracks we leave behind > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mike and gale jett > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] gggrrrrrrrrrr more mis infromation from the >site stewards > > > Some of us are in the dark as to what you are talking about. What and >where > is this article Ms. Rasmussen has written that everyone is so upset >about? > Sometimes I wonder if I get all the Listserv e-mail. > > > > > > > >From: Chelby Geiss > >Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > >To: listserv@azgeocaching.com > >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] gggrrrrrrrrrr more mis infromation from >the > >site stewards > >Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:07:34 -0700 > > > >I have been staring at a black page for 30 minutes trying to put into >words > >how I feel about this. > > > >I am curious...out of all of us who were paired up with a land agency >at > >the meeting, how many of you made post-meeting contact and continue to > >contact? > >I scan the Gila River reservation once a month for any new caches and >send > >an update to their representative...although I have yet to receive a > >response. > > > >I am trying to keep in mind that , yes, that article was written > >pre-September 27th...but it honestly makes my heart sink because some >how > >I'm not sure she would have written the article any different after > >attending our meeting. I hope some good has come from that meeting >though > >the other contacts we made that evening. > >C:) > >Team desertSol > >Chelby & Kevin > >+ > >Kiva and Lancer (German Shepherds) > >Apache Junction, AZ > >www.desertsol.com/~chelby/geocaching > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Az-Geocaching mailing list > >listserv@azgeocaching.com > >http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > >Arizona's Geocaching Resource > >http://www.azgeocaching.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > listserv@azgeocaching.com > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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