Okay Trish, Which definition are we using for "Professional" when referring to a volunteer individual sport/hobby? 1. Of, relating to, engaged in, or suitable for a profession: lawyers, doctors, and other professional people. 2. Conforming to the standards of a profession: professional behavior. 3. Engaging in a given activity as a source of livelihood or as a career: a professional writer. 4. Performed by persons receiving pay: professional football. 5. Having or showing great skill; expert: a professional repair job. Because I'm confused as to what a "professional attitude" is; about something that is not sanctioned, endorsed, certified or by any other standard: regulated. How does a person not living in and around Arizona judge those things that are good for Arizona? Should we also judge/regulate those things for European countries/ Asian countries whose beliefs and cultures are different from ours yet are apart of the Geocache? I am just asking a question as a person who has been exposed to many "types" of cultures and because of this, I would no sooner tell others to what they can and/or can not do as I would tell them how to vote or prey. It may seem like an extreme position from your perspective, but than I think what you have said establishes the ground rules for some to step in and start regulating this "amateur" hobby/sport, which in turn goes against ones own belief and oh yeah something established by the declaration of independence [one of those unalienable rights rights things] "pursuit of Happiness" which we are giving up when people are subject to the will or decisions of others who are not elected officials. > I agree, Skydad, for the most part. There are, however, a few things > that need to be taken seriously, for the benefit of ALL in geocaching; > hence, the upcoming meeting with the "land supervisors," as an example. > > While geocaching IS a hobby/sport, some more serious than for others, > there are a few issues that need to be addressed. And addressing these > issues, in my opinion, is best done by those with a "professional" > attitude (which is a positive thing.) > > That's my 2 cents, since we all have a right to voice an opinion, I > think. > > Trisha > "Lightning" > Prescott > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 24 September 2002, "skydad" wrote: > > > > > I totally agree with the newbie and their comments on how negative > > this list > > serv has gotten over the months. It seems are beloved sport/hobby > has > > become a way of life for many people and lost site of the true reason > > most > > of us started geocaching in the first place. How many people have > > simply > > stopped reading the emails without voicing their concerns as did our > > newest > > members? How many other new people will shy away due to the negative > > almost > > professional like attitude people are now taking? I think we all > > started to > > enjoy the adventure and finding spots we never knew existed in our > > great > > state. Along the way we have been lucky to meet some really great > > people. > > We can only hope the great effort the people at Snaptek have put > forth > > is > > not wasted with people taking this all too seriuosly. > > The Lunch Club > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > listserv@azgeocaching.com > > href="http://mail.brasher.com//jump/http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman /listinfo/az-geocaching">http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/a z-geocaching > > > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > > href="http://mail.brasher.com//jump/http://www.azgeocaching.com">http://www. azgeocaching.com > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "Although no one can go back and > make a brand new start, > Anyone can start from now and > make a brand new ending." > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > listserv@azgeocaching.com > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com