I just noticed something that I thought was strange. Notice that Team Scooby-Doo has (1 found) after their name on this page: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=7584 but has (2 found) on this cache page: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=6139 and has (3 found) on this cache page: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=16224 and (4 found) on this cache page: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=35768 Is this caused by the recent redo of the geocaching.com cache pages? If I remember correctly, the cache pages are generated each time something changes with a cache(for example someone posts a found log). Otherwise, the pages will have static text that won't be updated every time the page is viewed. As soon as someone finds 'Manzanita Cache' again, the total found for each team will update to whatever is current (in this case 4 found), but will then stay that way until the cache is logged again. This sound right? I just thought this was a good example. Also shows that we can't depend on the number of finds listed on a cache page as being current... Dan Team LazyK