I also agree, depending on the cache trip I usually carry my 9mm. Granted some of the urban caches people tend to frown, if not run when they see armed geotrashers getting out of the vehicles. Hey it is one way to get people out of the area, so the hunt for the cache can happen. Denny Tres Hombres -----Original Message----- From: Brian Casteel [mailto:bcasteel@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 8:58 AM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Death of geocacher Mike Curtin (a.k.a. FHR I couldn't agree more on the sidearm, Scott. You really never know when you might come across an animal starved for food, and ready to throw caution to the wind for a bite of your thigh. FMJs would probably be sufficient, but I always carry a load of CorBon 165gr JHP, just to make sure. Brian Team A.I. I haven't lost my mind. It's backed up on disk somewhere.