At 09:59 PM 9/3/2002 -0700, you wrote: >According to our Posse Operations Manual (and many good hiking books, >probably) both driver and observer must have an "Observer Kit" (pack) >with the following REQUIRED items: That is a good list. Some of your non-required items I consider essential like the first aid kit and the "personal tissue". :-) As for the radio, I have always found a handheld CB radio to be very valuable. Some may disagree with me, but I consider a sidearm an essential tool for being in the back country as well. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com