Hi Scott, That is an interesting question. I must admit that I would rather not have a "no find" on my record if I can help it. I like seeing that 100% ratio in the team stats for finds vs. no-finds. I didn't really think about it much until you posed the question. I guess I just assumed that a no-find would be a failure on my part. I can see what you're saying. There's nothing wrong with posting a no-find, and in many cases it helps the cache owner and others who may be searching for it. By posting a no-find, it may alert the cache owner that the cache is gone. It may also prevent others from wasting their time looking for a missing cache. The very worst it can do is to humble you temporarily. The world needs more humble people anyway. :) Thanks for opening my eyes to this point. I will not be so biased towards my own "success" in the future if I cannot find a cache. - FroBro Q-Tip -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Scott Wood Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 1:20 PM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question about a survey answer I have been reading the survey responses and many of them are quite interesting. One question has come up though. It seems that there are 2 normal answers to the question about how many times you look before posting a no-find log. It seems that the answers are either 1 or 3. I understand the 1, but don't really understand 3. You don't wait until you find a cache 3 times before you log it as a found cache, so why wait until 3 if you can't find it when you go hunting? This goes hand in hand with a question that I asked a number of months ago about no-find logs. Many people won't post no-find logs but will post a note saying that they couldn't find the cache. Why is this? Do you look at not being able to find the cache as some sort of failure? Thanks for posting the survey, it has been very interesting to read everyone replies. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com