I have to admit that I like both types of caches. I don't care a lot for long hikes in the middle of the summer. The quality of the cache, and the enjoyment seems to have little to do with how far I have to go to get it. While we like getting out and finding caches that take us through nice country on a hike, we also like the ones that are clever. "910.285" in the Phoenix area comes to mind. Not at all a long hike, but it is one of the more memorable caches that we have found. Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache