After looking at the cache in question, I'm rather suprised that it got through. I know Jeremy has mentioned publicly that a virtual needs some method of verification listed on the cache page before it will be approved. I haven't e-mailed him about Jeremy either, part of trying to not look like a tattle-tale, I guess. Maybe several of us, individually, should contact the owner and explain the concern. The guy deliberately used the same password on the file so I'm not confident that he'd respond in a positive manner but I feel he should be given a chance to correct the problem first. Eric Team Dragon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com