At 01:18 PM 7/11/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Isn't that one of the parks that was closed? That is what I was thinking also. It is a shame about the caches in Catalina State Park. When I was on the phone with the people from the State Parks Department I suggested that they leave the parks open and just not manage them, it wasn't received very well. :-) Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache