Went to Flag this weekend with a list of caches to try. I was only able to get to one (in the middle of NAU campus) because of forest closures. BTW, they were even patroling the shoulders of the roads, so even stopping for a few seconds got the attention of the local sheriff. Since we are not able to get to the actual cache sites, but can get within a few hundred feet, if recording a picture of the cache general area is good enough until the forests re-open. IMO, I don't think they should count as a 'real' find, but at least they make me feel like I accomplished something. What you do you guys/gals think? Karl Silent Yellow Dog Team