When indoubt, log it out!!! Even if it's not a 'not found' then at least a note. That way you're making sure that other geocachers can see the possibility that the cache is not there and to let the owner know that something is up with the cache. Remember that even though this is a game,there's no winner and NO ONE will look down on a person that has a few not founds in their history. I used to always change my not founds to notes if I went back and found a cache, but have given up on that, cause it just isn't that important. See ya in the logs, Darren Team Imperial Eagle