The monsoon is a pretty dependable phenomenon in Arizona, at least at higher elevations (if not in the deserts), and I would expect all the National Forests in this state to reopen sometime in July. The exact time depends on when the monsoon starts, and whether it starts vigorously or slowly. It's very doubtful any forests will still be closed by August 1. But expect things to remain closed for the next 3-4 weeks. For those who can take a few days off work, or are currently unemployed, I'd highly recommend going north a few hundred miles. Once you pass N 37 degrees, all the forests are open, at least in SW Utah (I didn't check Monti-La Sal NF, since I'm not going that way). ALL of Fishlake National Forest is open now, and most of Dixie National Forest (from north of St George east to north of Bryce Canyon) is open. The only closed areas in Dixie are where fires are actively burning, or recently ended (eg., Navajo Lake on UT route 14). They don't have any widespread closures at all, and neither of these national forests are anticipating any closures for the next 10 days, although stage 1 fire restrictions are in effect (no open campfires, etc.). Also, the northern section of Kaibab National Forest is still open, around Jacob Lake. Only one cache there (appropriately called "Jacob"), but a good place to go to if you are seeking cool, high-elevation national forests which are open. From there, you can go north about 35 miles to Kanab, where there ARE several regular caches, and a whole slew of virtual caches. You can start from the cache "Fool Rush In" at http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=8672 and search from that point using the link "nearby caches", to see what's up there. Well, this isn't exactly AZ geocaching, but it's "close to AZ geocaching". :) Mike Team Malthusian At 23:30:24 -0700 6/12/02 -0700, Scott wrote: > >There has always been the threads about what will kill geocaching. I think >I know the answer, even if only for a short period of time, and if only in >the Tucson area. > >It would appear that the closure of the Coronado National Forest has pretty >well done it down here. I have all of the Tucson area caches on my watch >list, and with the exception of Meteor Maniacs coming down and finding a >few caches this last weekend, there has been hardly any activity at all. > >I suspect that the heat has something to do with it also, but this is going >to be one boring summer down here in the Tucson area with no access to the >national forest. Guess I am going to have to drive up to Phoenix and go >after a bunch of the urban caches one of these weekends. > >Scott >Team My Blue Heaven >www.myblueheaven.com/geocache > >