At 12:29 PM 6/13/2002 -0700, you wrote: >detached from the tin) in addition to your theory on the smooth surface, is >that your rare earth magnets are just too strong! They hold to the surface >you are attracted to better than the magnet plus the JB Weld holds onto the >tin itself.... Yeah, I sort of think the same thing. I am going to experiment a little with surface prep a little, but I suspect that I will end up going down the path of using the magnetic tape. It is sort of a shame since I have a bunch of the rare earth magnets. So far, it seems that the magnet on Cinnamon Stick is still holding. >BTW, I got off of my duff and put one of my Altoid micros out while running >errands just before lunch. Now I only have one altoid tin burning a hole in >my pocket, ready to be placed.... Of course, I've got a stack of empty >altoid tins ready to be prepared for geocaching! Good, that will give me something to do once it is approved. I hope to have 1 or 2 more out this weekend myself. Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache