Chris, I would agree that you've done a good job on this one.  My
post was more intended at FUTURE placements of caches, rather than
existing ones.  I certainly don't think Drydock should be archived.
Now that its very clearly stated in its description that you should
avoid searching in restricted areas, its okay, and you have
rectified any possible problems.

The main point i wanted to make, is for people to carefully consider
what is close to the cache location, when they choose their locations
for future caches.  If there is a power plant or something of that 
sort close to where someone will place a cache in the future, then
just very clearly state in the cache description that people should
avoid searching such areas, and that the cache is NOT in or on the
 edge of such areas.

Ironically, I'm looking for a couple urban caches to look for around
sunset today, not involving uphill hiking.  (Uphill hiking is 
something I like whan it's cool, but not when its 105 degrees).
With the brand-new cache across the street from Drydock, I might
just get motivated to search for both of those around sunset today-
just 6 hours from now.

Mike (Malthusian)

At 18:28:06 EDT 6/7/02, Chris wrote:
>Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 18:28:06 EDT
>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Placements near restricted areas
>
>In a message dated 6/7/02 9:02:04 PM, malthusian@mindspring.com writes:
>
><< One example that comes to mind is an unnamed cache in the SE valley,
>that is close to the cooling towers of a power plant.  Close enough
>that many people's GPS units pointed them into the very restricted
>areas around the cooling towers.  Based on recent logs and an email
>I got from the cache owner, the cache is located nearby, but out of
>the restricted area.  
>
>With the accuracy of GPS units being degraded some when near buildings, 
>to maybe -+40 feet, I think we need to make sure that any new caches 
>placed will be at least 40-50 feet from things like power plants, or 
>any area that people would be very nervous about searching in.  With
>all the heightened security concerns since 9/11, and the possibility
>that some day a terrorist may place a bomb in a power plant, I think
>we need to not have ourselves searching near such areas.
>
>Mike (Malthusian) >>
>
>
>I'll claim this one, it's my DryDock cache which I placed with my Uncle
(Team 
>Token) at his work.  At the time we placed the cache we were confident
enough 
>in the coordinates that we put no thought into the cooling towers.  Since 
>then I've tried to address everyones concerns with this cache and excluding 
>another coordinate recheck which I'm planning on doing this week, I think 
>I've done a good job.  (I'm sure I'll hear it if I haven't....)  The cache
is 
>40-50 feet away from the offending location and I hope that the solutions 
>that I have made for this cache will rectify any and all problems.  If not 
>look for it to be archived soon.  
>
>Chris
>Cache-meifucan
>
>