Brian wrote "Nope, if anything people should get extra credit if they have a team, and use it properly." I agree with a team it is harder, I really feel for Team CHUMP, we have been on some hiking mountain caches, and he has had to carry his 6 year old son up and down the mountain, he should get extra credit for that. I am just waiting for the day my sons can carry me up the mountain. Denny Tres Hombres