Personally, I prefer walking to 4-wheeling, but regardless of your mode of getting there, they won't let you in, in most of AZ right now. At least at most elevations above the desert areas, where it'll be too hot very soon. I would say either go to Utah, or wait until after July 1. As of a few days ago, I myself wasn't planning on going out of the state until October. But now, with a few spare vacation days I could use, I might just take a couple days off in mid-June, and take a 4-day trip to Utah (hmmm...maybe I should pick up some TBs). The primary reason is just to get into a forested hi-country area and HIKE. Finding caches is secondary, but would add more justification to such a trip. I do appreciate the data from Highpointer about Utah having more caches per capita than any other western state. I would never have guessed that- I would have thought AZ had the most per capita! But, with 2 great reasons to head up to Utah, I'm setting my sights north right now. I'm sure there's plenty of 4WD areas all thru that state. I don't know if any of their national forests could close, but it seems much less likely there, their drought is nowhere near as severe as in AZ. They also have a ton of high desert areas that lack fuel for wildfires, and probably wouldn't ever close. These areas are very scenic, kind of like Sedona without the housing developments and sprawl. If your 4WD gets stuck somewhere, though, you could really be in the middle of nowhere there. Mike At 06:45:58 -0700 5/23/02, Gordon L. Flatt wrote: > >Team Coyote1022 just purchased a Jeep so we can get to such caches, and now >we have no place to go! Does anyone have any suggestions as to where one >could get in some good 4 wheeling and geocaching this weekend? We are dying >to try out our new toy! > >Team Coyote1022 > >