Scott and all, I archived "Quartz Mtn" before the fire due to reports of it either gone or vandalized, I can't remember which (I am still trying to get my life back in order and my mind is a bit numb after all this activity for three days :-) By the way, the actual person who placed the cache, Rich from the Posse, lives across the street from Christ Fergis, our Jeep Posse Captain, who was on the Prescott front page today, both of their homes were saved by the air-attack and fire crews. My opinion, putting a cache in a fire-proof container is a bit of overkill....even if it survived the fire, who would want to go tromping thru the ashes and black sticks to find it? :-) Trisha "Lightning" making very slow progress thru my emails and probably saying silly things! BTW also, thanks to those who said "thanks"....we (Posse and other groups) train for this and are glad when we can help. And in my usual position (radio operator at the Sheriff's mobile command center, for our portion of the volunteers) it is interesting to hear everything that is going on. Thru-out the fire, we (two of us) monitored 6 frequencies, (talking mainly on only one, however) with instructions to notify the Sheriff incident commander if there was any increase in the fire (important to know re evac'd areas and need to evac more). On Fri, 17 May 2002, "Scott Nicol" wrote > > > > > > > >Are there any caches that are known or likely to be consumed by the fire? > > > >Quartz Mountain Cache > >by Yavapai Co. Jeep Posse~ Rich (#1967) > >ALERT! The cache no longer exists, whether by act of nature or other > >circumstance. > > > >This cache had been archived before the fire. > > > >As reported by Lightning "Yup, Quartz Mtn is not only archived, it is > >toast." > > > So, Quartz Mountain Cache was not archived due to the fire? > > I am curious to know: will an ammo box hold up thru a forest fire? I would > guess not. But, I don't know! They are military type boxes. I would guess > the seals would probably melt. Whether the metal box would hold up would > just depend on how hot it gets. Perhaps it would get so hot the contents > inside would melt and maybe not the box itself? Also, if the ammo box was > under some rocks, it could be possible it might stand a chance of surviving > a fire as well. hhmm. Just some wandering thoughts I am having! :) Kinda > curious! Perhaps we should test this theory and stick an ammo box in my > backyard BBQ! :) LOL (just make sure the very original contents arent still > in it, of course!!! LOL ) > > I heard there was a forest fire fighter on this list. Does anyone know what > temperature the forest floor can reach during a fire? > > Now... if we could make a geocache container out of Inconel (a type of > metal), it would hold up very well in a forest fire! My hot air balloon > burner coils are made out of Inconel. It is a rather expensive metal, but, > can take an icredible amount of heat. My balloon burner puts out 25.7 > million (yes, million) BTU's of heat at it's highest output. Typically flies > at around 17 million. That is alot of heat folks! :) > > Scott > Team Ropingthewind > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > listserv@azgeocaching.com > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Although no one can go back and make a brand new start, Anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~