Howdy, Again, I'll throw my two-cents worth in to this discussion (particularly since I've spent most of the last month working on one fire or another here in SE AZ): 1) Lightning is the usual cause of a 'natural wildfire'. Spontaneous combustion usually requires some human caused element (manure piles, grass/hay/straw piles, etc.). In addition to the friction caused fire that Scott mentioned, rock slides can cause sparks that can cause an ignition. When conditions are extreme, it doesn't take much. 2) If someone is found to have caused a fire, they are subject to criminal charges, but what's worse is they are liable in civil court for the suppression costs of a fire. The cost of even a 'small' 40 acre fire can easily cost several thousand dollars to suppress. 3) Most human caused fires can not be attributed to an individual, but the instrument of cause is usually identified (abandoned campfire, discarded cigarette, etc.) 4) Along the border, many human caused fires are caused by UDA's, who've never heard of Smokey or who intentionally start fires to cover their activities and/or throw the Border Patrol off their trail. This doesn't get much play in the media (or from the agencies) because it isn't PC, but most folks who are 'building line and kicking ash' know the score. 5) The 'internal' temperature of a wildland fire depends on several factors. Among them, the size of the fuel (that's burning) the moisture content of the fuel, and weather conditions (temp, humidity, wind speed). It is not uncommon for temperatures to reach over 1000F. I have seen some amazing things, including some pretty massive steel communications towers that looked like pretzels, and found out that the little blobs of metal around the site were the bolts that held the tower together. Somewhere I've got the spec's on the fire shelters that each firefighter is required to carry, it lists what the inside temps will be when the outside temps are such and such for given time periods--I see if I can find it and post the data here. 6) Depending on the kind/type/duration of the fire, most 'fire safes' aren't. The safe survives, but the contents usually turn to ash. I've seen RV fires where all that's left is a fire safe inside a 35' X 8' rectangle of ash. I've been with an owner who was able to get his safe open to find more ash inside. I think a typical ammo box in a fire in a forest (with fair sized fuel), would be melted down to slag. 7) As Scott mentions, more severe fire restrictions are in effect on the Coronado now, and a Forest Closure is not far off. I suspect other Forests (and other agencies) will follow suit soon. 8) As far as I know, the last widespread closure of public lands in AZ was in May/June, 1996. I was managing the state Fire Information Center at the time. It is not a decision that managers take lightly. Once it is effect don't expect it to be lifted until after an area receives significant rainfall. Fuel moistures have to come up and that always lags the rain, i.e. the wood has to soak up some of that moisture. My caching activity has dropped off significantly since fire season has started. I've been spending a lot of time supporting the suppression efforts on the Oversite Fire, Merritt Fire, Center Fire, and Ryan Fire. During one of trips (back to Tucson at 0300, as I recall) I thought of doing a series of theme caches on fire prevention, and placing them in areas that burned on fires I've worked this year, then I thought that would be a little to weird.... I'm still considering a mobile cache, but that'll wait until the rains come. And, finally, (this is kinda related), I am pleased (and relieved--we can pay for the house now!) to announce that the Bonnie half of Team Boulder Creek will enter duty as a Fire Dispatcher with the Coronado National Forest on June 3. It will make it difficult for me to ignore the radio problems with dispatch... --Fred Team Boulder Creek and Radio Systems Manager, Coronado NF and still a red carded Fire Information Officer (if you couldn't tell...)