so is hap going to log in and archive the cache? or do we need to send a note to jeremey for him to archive it? jason Scott Nicol wrote: >> From: "Hap McDaniel" >> To: arizcowboy@hotmail.com >> Subject: Re: ropingthewind contacting you from Geocaching.com >> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:10:38 -0700 >> >> Hi Scott, >> Bass Ackwards is no longer there. Sorry. NPS did'nt like it. >> hap >> >> Hap McDaniel >> Phoenix AZ USA >> 602-909-8672 >> n.33.51559 >> w.112.12347 >> happeninghap@hotmail.com >> www.geocities.com/happeninghaps >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Howdy AZ geocachers, > > Some sad news as I awake this morning to read my emails. Above is the > email from Hap McDaniel in response to my email to him about the Bass > Ackwards Cache. You know, the cache that is over 530 days old without a > find! That is the official news from the cache owners mouth. > > Am I the first geocacher to actually inquire to the cache owner about > this cache? Team Ropingthewind has been planning and plotting for a > couple of weeks now for an attempt at this cache this upcoming weekend. > But, we can rest now! We have wanted to do it for several months now but > the North Rim of the Grand Canyon is closed for the winter and didnt > reopen until May 10th. We hoped to do it last weekend, but, business > changed our plans. So, this was to be the weekend. > > For those wishing to know... there was a trail to the cache. North Bass > Trail. It appears to be a little used trail. I sent another email to > inquire about the condition of that trail, but, havent gotten a response > as of yet. That was still our big question. Where did the trailhead > start and could we drive to it? The cache appeared to be only about 400' > off the trail (according to my mapping software). No permits were needed > except for overnight stays (backcountry permit). It is possible to hike > to the bottom of the canyon and back up in one LONG day. I have done it > (even though the National Park says over and over on it's web site that > it shouldnt be attempted). Day hiking did not require a permit. Just a > park entrance fee. > > Geez, and just when we thought we might finally beat Loran to a first! ;) > > Well, I am kinda bummed. We were excited about possibly being the first > to that cache. We are only 4 caches away from the big #200 and we were > hoping to make Bass Ackwards #200! Hmm. Maybe Bronco Butte? > > I wonder why no one else ever even inquired about this cache to the > cache owner? I wonder why it was never archived? It appears the cache > owner works for the NPS? It appears there are 2 other caches in the > canyon. One near the bottom of the Bright Angel Trail (perhaps?). I > wonder what the status of those caches are since the NPS does not allow > caches on their land? > > A question to ponder: if a cache is found at least once every 24 hours, > does that make it not abandoned property? If I remember from a past post > on the list here, someone said the NP does not allow caches because they > consider it abandoned property and property cannot remained unattended > for more than 24 hours (or something like that). SO, if someone places a > cache on NP land that is pretty easily accessible and close to a city > (like Saguaro NP in Tucson), as long as there was a daily found log on > that cache, would the NP service be in the wrong to remove it (for at > least as long as it remains found on a daily basis)? This probably isnt > realistic though. But, just pondering a question. There might just be a > loophole here! > > Scott > Team Ropingthewind > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > listserv@azgeocaching.com > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com