At 12:03 PM 4/30/2002 -0600, you wrote: >I'm just asking here Scott, nothing else ment by this, but why do you feel >that way? I really don't know for sure. I guess I look at a cache as being a single thing at a specific location. It can be either a traditional cache or a virtual one, but everyone that has found that cache has been to the same place as the person who hid it. With the caches that are "locationless" you have people "finding" caches/locations that the hider doesn't know exists nor will ever visit. I have enjoyed reading some of the online logs for these caches, but finding them just isn't as fun to me as a cache that was placed somewhere, by someone, with a specific reason to bring me there. Any one else have any specific thoughts on this? Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache