Nope, the ones at kmart are completely card free. The ones that come with the 8meg card are the eMap deluxe and cost quite a bit more. If they had been selling off the deluxes for that price I probably would have bought all or most of them and then sold them off to whoever on the list. $139 is pretty darn good for what you get, but it would have been incredible for the deluxe. Anyway, I found a place that sells after market power/data cords for it for $26 bucks and a snagged a 32 meg mem module for $79. I think I'm ready to rock and roll now for not too much more than their list price after everything is said and done for pretty much the deluxe model. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek ----- Original Message ----- > I snagged the Venture on Saturday. They had three eMaps left. I don't > think the eMaps have memory cards, though. Brian? > > Dan