At 10:18 AM 4/23/2002 -0700, you wrote: (So, do I get a partial refund of my permit because a given percentage of land is now off limits to me? :) I can still land within it. However, we would have to carry all 750lbs worth of balloon equiptment out! (and my balloon is a really small balloon! Those big 14 passenger balloons weigh ALOT more!). I have landed in fenced off peices of property and had to carry equiptment out before. No big deal really. But, not something you want to do on a regular basis! Ok, this is off topic, but what do you fly? Up until a few years ago I was the crew chief for an Aurora 54K. Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache