Nothing personal meant, nor am I trying to start an argument. I've been guilty myself a couple times of travelling beyond a *real* road to get a little closer to a cache. But it's not only the people who dump trash, but the off-roading itself that is causing major damage to some locations. If folks would stay on a small number of established and maintained roads and walk otherwise, rather than tearing up washes, banks and in general creating the spider web of tracks I often see out there, these places would be still accessible to motor travel. My tree hugger bias spewing out here, I know. Jerry-Offtrail On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 10:19:03 -0600 "Baja Fleg" writes: > To the off-roaders....who else saw that coming but me? Its a shame > that the > bone headed people that us the desert as a dumping ground ruin it > for the > rest of us. > > Michael > Team TJ > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > I received my renewal application in the mail today. The following > page > was enclosed with the form and the usual rules and regulations: > > IMPORTANT NOTICE TO ALL RECREATIONAL PERMIT HOLDERS > > To date, the following parcels of land within the Maricopa County > metropolitan area have been closed to motorized vehicle use by > formal > order of the State Land Commissioner due to excessive dust and > natural > resource damage: > > > 1. North side of Deer Valley Road, East of 7th Street, > Phoenix > 2. East side of Cave Creek Road, South of Pinnacle Peak > Road, > Phoenix > 3. West side of Cave Creek Road, North of Pinnacle Peak > Road, > Phoenix > 4. East side of Cave Creek Road, North of Pinnacle Peak > Road, > Phoenix > 5. West side of Scottsdale Road from Mayo Blvd. to Pinnacle > Peak > Road, Phoenix > 6. North side of Happy Valley Road, West of 51st Avenue, > Phoenix > 7. West side of 7th Avenue, South of Galvin Road, Phoenix > 8. South side of Baseline Road, West of Signal Butte, Mesa > 9. West side of 109th Avenue, North of Rose Garden Lane, > Peoria > 10. West side of Lake Pleasant Road, North & South of Deer > Valley > Road Alignment, Peoria > 11. Southwest Bell Road & Crozier Road, Surprise > > NOTE: Arizona State Land Recreational permits on these parcels are > invalid with regard to motorized vehicle use. Any person(s) found > in > possession of and/or operating motorized vehicles on these parcels > will > be considered trespassing and may be subject to prosecution with > penalties of up to $500.00. A.R.S. 13-1502; A. R. S. 13-802. > > If you would like more details regarding these closures, closure > updates, or for information on how you can may [sic] be able to > help > nt future closures in your area, please call Judy Wood at (602) > 542-7235 or e-mail jwood@lnd.state.az.us. > > THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION > September 17, 2001 > ======================================================================== > ================= > > Underscores theirs, typos mine (except the one indicated by > "[sic]"). > > I guess my main reason for typing all this in is to ask: Does > anyone > recognize any caches in these areas that might be affected by these > restrictions? Perhaps we can make sure the cache owners know about > this. > > Steve > Team Tierra Buena > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: > http://mobile.msn.com > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > listserv@azgeocaching.com > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com >