At 05:39 PM 4/3/2002 -0700, you wrote: >the benefit of the doubt before getting even slightly mad. After managing >caches and groupings across the whole planet, he might have run into some >situations where tight cache groupings caused problems. Maybe it resulted This raises a good question. Is it his job to manage caches? Or is it just his job to provide the electronic means for people to post their caches? Is it the job of the cache owner to manage their own caches? Is it then the responsibility of the cache hunters in a given area to determine if there are too many in an area? It all comes back to the simple fact that when this gets too controlled people will make a decision as to whether they will continue with this hobby or not. It will be up to each and ever person to decide where their breaking point is. Geocaching will either survive or it won't. My continued participation in this sport will have nothing to do with that. However, trying to micro-manage cache placement from hundreds or thousands of miles away will definitely have an impact on the future of the game. In any case, I will continue to enjoy the outdoors. I will continue to take my Land Cruiser, or whatever my current 4x4 is, on the trails that we enjoy. Perhaps I will be looking for an ammo can under a pile of rocks, or maybe it will be something else. Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache