This information may be old news to many of you but since I am new to the mail group I just wanted to make sure it was covered. Since some of the caches I've been doing are on State Trust Land I decided to look into getting a permit. While getting the permit I was listening to stories of people getting ticketed for not having a permit, which is a $400 to $500 fine. They used to give warnings but now they are ticketing. Luckily I haven't been caught yet but I figured the $20 annual fee per family for the permit seems to be a safer route. The permits are available at 1616 W Adams St in Phoenix. Team Sand Dollar