At 11:32 AM 2/25/2002 -0500, you wrote: >I agree with Scott that there seems to be a discrepancy for how people >choose to log. For us, a trek (for which we use the definition of time >spent out of the car and attempting to reach the coordinates) ends in >either a found or a not found (and a found for a traditional cache means >obtaining posession and logging in, not just seeing the container). We had to log our first "can't find" Arizona log this weekend. I don't feel upset about it, this one hasn't been found by a lot of different people. :-) Take a look at the logs for "Scary" and you will see what I mean. To be honest, I don't know if we were ever close to this one or not. It is a steep hillside with LOTS of rocks and fallen trees. My GPS was all over the place and I never got it to report being under about 100 feet from the cache. I might have felt bad about not finding it if everyone else had, but that is not the case for this one. I do hope that it is still there, I REALLY want to find this one now. :-) In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com