If I've had the time to look around and explore a significant number of hiding places and I can't find it, then I log it "Couldn't find". If I am unable to finish part of a multi-stage cache then I either use a note or do nothing, depending on how much activity the cache gets. I haven't had someone chase me off while searching so I don't know which one I would use. If I had to leave due to lack of illunination (fat chance*) I would log it as a "Couldn't find". Eric TD * I recently found a cache near Auckland in the bush, in the dark, in the rain. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com