I'm all for cleaning up the forest and desert! We routinely help with Jeep clubs on cleanups. I've noticed a big difference lately at the Usery Pass gate to Bulldog canyon. Someone has been trying to cleanup the trash (looks like they're burning it). However, I'd be VERY concerned if we emphasized geocaching. I'm afraid of what the NFS will say. To some, a geocache is considered "abandoned" property (trash). Currently, I think most of us have been doing a "don't ask, don't tell" policy. If we tell (ask), we may not like the answer. Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of JeepNAz@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 5:27 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Trash in Tonto I also think this is a great idea as well as a good PR move....we dont want the NFS to start treating geocachers like the NPS does. However my thoughts are that this is a bigger problem then 1 event cache can solve. The article states that their "Crews will pick up everything on a Sat... the next day it looks like no one cleaned that area in six months". Perhaps a long term "Cache in Trash out" type of cache might be a good idea in addition to an event cache for initial cleanup? Maybe one in each Ranger Dist ( Cave Creek And Mesa ) . Just some thoughts...we will participate in whatever is decided date allowing. Norm...Team JeepNAz _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching