I can see micheal point.... I know I have had to stop logging my caches on
the web because it could get me in trouble if certain people were to find
out. once I get back to work , and log these caches for that day folks I
know will question how I could be in flag and tucson on the same day... but
that will be there problem not mine.... all in all I do like the stats....
but there are good reason not to have them

libby
----- Original Message -----
From: "Baja Fleg" <fleigle@hotmail.com>
To: <az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] I don't love the stats


> Like I said Stephen I really don't care about peoples opinion I just want
> our information down.  Of course how many caches someone finds is public
> information but when its all grouped into one website with how many you
find
> each day, per week, per month, and what your "cache carma" is along with
> other things then that crosses the line.
> Also CBX2 is very correct, the stats are probably a great thing if you
want
> to be included in them, we don't.  I really am not trying to be difficult
> here, I just want our privacy respected.  Everyone geocaches for their own
> reason and stats is not part of ours.  It really does make it not fun for
> us.  We used to be huge Geocachers, probably found 5-10 every week, but
> around mid-October we just stopped.  It was because of the contest that we
> feel the stats have made it out to be and how everyone could basically
watch
> us from the web.  Stephens proves that.  Also Stephens post points out how
> much of a contest this can be and how "big brother" really does come into
> all of this.
> So I'm not saying the stats are bad, just bad for us.  I also thing this
> email group is great, we still get out to Arizona about once every two
> months so its nice to know what's going on and how our old friends are
> doing.  I've met most of you guys and get along with you all so I
apologize
> for being difficult but its just one of those things we want no part of
and
> now its really crossed the line.
>
> Michael
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> My opinion is if you don't like the stats, then don't look at them.  And I
> don't see how it's personal information how many you did and when.
> (Everyone can see that I did 6 on Saturday and 3 on Sunday, oh no!!!!)  In
> fact, I've found the stats a big help because it's helped me organize
groups
> of caches to do by seeing what others have done on the same day.
>
> Assuming the information is correct, I looked at the number of AZ caches
> completed since November 1st for the Top 10 people according to Snaptek's
AZ
> rankings (what the website told me as of about 7 PM yesterday):
>
> 1. n4/c = 80
> 2. srdrake = 62
> 3. trail gypsy = 60
> 4. wyle e = 54
> 5. cache-quest = 47
> 6. mike the mutant = 36
> 7. cbx2 = 33
> 8. bob renner = 29
> 9. wolfb8 = 13
> 10. team tj = 0
>
> (I didn't look at caches done since 11/1 for those not in the current Top
> 10.)
>
> The caveat is that I began geocaching on 11/22 and n4/c around the
beginning
> of November.  We have been able to go after a lot of the easy urban ones
> that the more experienced have gone after prior to November.
>
> I think it would be interesting if the Snaptek site would (besides the
> overall totals), provide totals for the current month.  We could see who's
> currently possessing the most obsessive-compulsive geocaching habits at
the
> moment.
>
> One thing interesting about Wyle E's geocaching habits...  In achieving a
> total of 210, they/he has never done more than 7 caches in one day.   (I
may
> have missed a bigger day.)  That is slow, steady commitment to this hobby.
>
> My only complaint about the stats is that it shows caches "not completed,"
> which could influence someone choosing not to log a "can't find" log.  As
it
> is, I believe most geocachers only log their successes and not their
> attempts (which would be helpful to all of us).
>
> -Stephen
>
>
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