> I thought about a film canister but I think that would be too small. After > the let down of the game last night I put together a small container with > PVC and ABS pipe as a test. I think it is the perfect size, but wonder if > given the events of Sept. 11 it would be wise to place a piece of PVC > somewhere public? I would hope that it wouldn't be found by anyone other > than a geocacher, and I would have the container clearly marked, but I > would hate to have the bomb squad out thinking it was a pipe bomb. I guess > though that this is something to be concerned about with any urban cache. There is probably always a risk of someone thinking that it something other than what it is. I know what I visited metro pecan, which was an amo can bolted to a tree with a pad lock on it. I looked at that and it just screamed that it was a place to drop off drugs or something like that. Try putting something non-pipebombesque on the pipe as well. Most people wouldn't think pipebomb if it also had a water spicket poking out the end. You might also want to try using a very large pipe that is just long enough to fit 2 caps on. Most people I think also assume that pipe bombs are long and skinny. Add on a water spicket and you have a funny box, not a pipe bomb. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek