That IS really odd. Was there any type of identification to a cache "name"? If you can reveal it, what was the name of the park? I'm only aware of one archived cache in Tucson, that's probably not it. I agree that we all need to be responsible in the placement, and finding, of the caches. A few bad circumstances can ruin it for everyone. There's already enough controversy going on about the placement and seeking of caches. Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Scott Wood Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 4:53 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Who needs a GPSR My wife and I found two caches today without ever turning our GPSR on. We went to a park in the Tucson area that we have been planning on leaving our first cache at today to plant it, and while hiking in the area to find a suitable place, we found two caches, left by the same person, marked with www.geocaching.com within 15 yards of each other. The problem was that neither of these caches were even hidden, just sat right in the middle of the trail. Neither cache is listed on www.geocaching.com so there is no way to contact the owner of the cache, and there is no e-mail address in the cache. According to the log book, both have been found in the past, and the caches were placed on the 19th of October. Both were also started with only one item with a logbook, in pretty flimsy plastic containers. Needless to say I was somewhat upset to find that someone had beat me to the park to place a cache, but the more I thought about it, the thing that has me more upset is the careless way in which these caches were placed. I can see where this is going to give cachers a really bad name. I hope that the person who placed these caches reads this listserv and will do something about these caches. It is a beautiful park, and a very good place for a cache, but if they are going to be placed, they should be in such a way that they are actually hidden, and please list them on geocaching.com. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com Have you been to www.myblueheaven.com today? _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching