Just wondering if caches that require a 4x4 would be of any interest to the group? When I was a kid we used to have 4x4 coffee can runs. Each can had tokens and had to be found in order to get directions to the other cans. It was always fun and now with GPS it could get pretty interesting. Rick __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/