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<DIV>I'm with ShadowAce on this one. There's way too many cache owners out there
who are in a big hurry to place caches, yet don't maintain them when the glow
wears off. We get to spend some time in the Eastern Sierras every summer, and
many of the caches placed in the area are done so by cachers from So.
California. The biggest problem with this is that the owners are 400 miles away,
and may not be able to maintain their caches until the next time they have a
"vacation". My feeling is that the administrators should be a little more
selective in approving "vacation" caches by owners who live x number of miles
away, or may have trouble maintaining their caches, because of the
distance from home. This goes back to the lazy and not caring comment , by the
way.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A
title=mailto:shadowace.az@gmail.com
href="mailto:shadowace.az@gmail.com">ShadowAce</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com
href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 16, 2009 8:51
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] New Fake
cache logger - FYI</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Sorry, I have to disagree<BR><BR> If a cache owner can not
maintain a cache then it should be removed in my opinion. I agree with
groundspeak on this as only two things stop false logging.. 1 ) cache owner
confirms and removes fake logs 2 ) the cache goes bubye<BR><BR> So before
you point a finger at the Heavy Handed Groundspeak, maybe smack your fellow
cachers for being lazy and not caring?<BR><BR>= Dirk / ShadowAce<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Richard Hansen <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A title=mailto:richard.hansen@dos2unix.net
href="mailto:richard.hansen@dos2unix.net">richard.hansen@dos2unix.net</A>></SPAN>
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<DIV>Typical heavyhandedness by groundspeak, looking for any excuse to get
rid of virts. <BR><BR><BR>
<DIV>=</DIV>
<DIV>Richard Hansen</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>On Mar 16, 2009, at 8:35 PM, AZcachemeister <<A
title=mailto:azcachemeister@getnet.net
href="mailto:azcachemeister@getnet.net"
target=_blank>azcachemeister@getnet.net</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I do see in a related thread in the Geocaching forums, that (per a
reviewer and forum mod no less reliable than KEYSTONE) FAILURE to delete
logs by known 'armchair loggers' can constitute a lack of maintenance by
the cache owner, and grounds for archival.<BR>C'mon cache owners, lets get
this mess cleaned
up!<BR><BR>ACM</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>____________________________________________________________<BR>Az-Geocaching
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