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<DIV><FONT size=4>Thanks ACM for the info. I just got on crutches to talk
with both legs today with the help of my physical therapist. It's going to
be a while yet before I can go back out as it is about 2.5 miles from parking
which I was able to get to with my little horse pulling me in the cart or on
bike. Right now the left leg will not allow any of that sore of
activity. The other thing that bothers me is the fact that I've had 2 of
the nice GC cache containers stolen from there. Not that big a deal but
when someone steals your $5 water proof container you wonder if it is worth
replacing. We will see after my leg heals some more. This cache was
my 'Brownlow Alligator' GCJNXG I replaced the container on July 7th of
2008. On July 27th I was shot in the leg with a 9mm pistol and have been
working on the healing and can't get back out yet. It was archived 'for
me' on March 9th of 2009 while I had marked as temporally archived on Jan 8th of
2009 I just didn't like the idea of it being 'archived' for
me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Anyway, Thanks again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Bob Smith, Team Petite Elite</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=azcachemeister@getnet.net
href="mailto:azcachemeister@getnet.net">AZcachemeister</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=listserv@azgeocaching.com
href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:36
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] New Fake
cache logger - FYI</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>HMMM! Yes, a possibility I hadn't considered. Perhaps you
should either be more insistent that it be returned to temp disabled status,
or write up a new cache at the same location and not check the 'ACTIVE'
checkbox. I understand the reviewers can see 'caches in progress', and will
respect the claim to the location for a time. No telling if that would work in
this case.<BR><BR>ACM<BR>
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<BR><BR>Jake Olson wrote:
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cite=mid:7fc31e730903171825q171ceb5fhe85094f55c9a6c4d@mail.gmail.com
type="cite">But while it's archived, another cache can be placed within the
528ft radius. My point was that I was trying to hold the area until
the construction was complete and evaluate reactivating it or archiving the
cache myself. I can't do that if another cache has encroached.
It's the same reason I didn't move it... the Mostly 7's name would lose its
significance if it's moved.<BR><BR>Jake - Team A.I.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Rich B <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:azicn09@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">azicn09@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<P>That is good to know - we have a cache we want to <SPAN
style="BACKGROUND: rgb(255,255,255) 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial"><SPAN>un</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)">-</SPAN><SPAN
style="BACKGROUND: rgb(255,255,255) 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial"><SPAN>archive</SPAN></SPAN>
and place a "less <SPAN
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container for it. Will keep this in mind.</P>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 5:26 PM,
AZcachemeister<SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)">
</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr><SPAN
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)"><</SPAN>azcachemeister<SPAN
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)">@</SPAN>getnet<SPAN
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)">.</SPAN>net></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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<DIV text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">Jake, <BR>and Bob,<BR>Once your
caches are repaired/replaced, they can be unarchived and put back in
service.<BR>An EMail to our reviewer (with a link to the cache page
included for convenience) stating that the cache is fixed should result
in unarchival.<BR>Worst case scenario is you would need to 'hide' a
'new' cache at the same location.<BR>The speed with which disabled
caches are archived is pretty-much left up to the local reviewer, and is
not mandated by Groundspeak/Geocaching.com.<BR>With around 500 caches
<BIG><B><I>a month</I></B></BIG> being published in Arizona alone
(I could only guess how many are submitted) our reviewer is overworked
and under paid, and should be screaming for some help. With that kind of
pressure, some errors of judgment are bound to creep in.<BR><BR>Back on
topic. Once a virtual is archived, it's gone for good. <SPAN><SPAN>:'(
</SPAN></SPAN><BR><BR>ACM<BR>
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<BR><BR>Jake Olson wrote:
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<DIV>
<DIV>Similarly, they archived one of my caches that I disabled due to
construction in the area. I posted a note on the cache before
the archive stating that I was wanting to hold the cache disabled
until the construction was complete to re-evaluate archiving it myself
then. I sent a subsequent note to the approver that archived it which
went ignored, or at least un-responded to.<BR><BR>The cache was named
"Mostly 7's" and ended with 4 sevens in both the longitude and
latitude. Moving the cache to an adjacent location would have
undermined the whole concept of the placement.<BR><BR>Jake - Team
A.I.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Bob &
Linda Smith <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:Lrsmith@cableone.net"
target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">Lrsmith@cableone.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>I think I must agree here that some things GC see
as needing heavy-handedness. They decided to archive one of my
caches that I temporally archived because I had not replaced it
within 30 days. I explained in a note that I was laid up with
a serious leg injury and would get to it asap. I don't think
they read that but just acted on the flag on my tempory
archive. Which by the way must be fairly new as they
threatened to archive another of my caches when I temporally
archived it over a year ago and the flag just popped up. I
found that I needed to post a different kind of log other than just
a note.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I still look after a couple of caches for away
owner that are close to me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Anyway, we get a note whenever our caches are
logged on line and should act on the note if needed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Jumping off box onto bad leg Ouch!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Bob Smith, Team Petite Elite, Prescott,
AZ</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV><PRE><DIV><HR width="90%" SIZE=4>
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