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That is just it. I have taken the kids and found caches with a view. It
is a wonderful experience. And, yes, I have met cachers out in the
boonies. And hope to again. Yes, maybe even yourself.<br>
<br>
But, I have also had some fun moments finding caches under the park
bench, etc. And, met cachers there too.<br>
<br>
Just because YOU don't enjoy it, does not mean someone else does not
either. That is the joy of being able to have an opinion, emotions,
feelings, etc. If you are not interested in finding the cache in a
particular location (assuming no serious rules violation), just ignore
it, and go on. That is a choice you can make.<br>
<br>
Also, please don't equate lack of time/resources/equipment/etc. with
being lazy. Time is in very limited supply. Each of us may be allocated
the same amount each day, but we are not allocated the same constraints
or priorities. <br>
<br>
<br>
PATRICK FINLEY wrote:
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<div>I don't remember saying anything about folks needing to play
this game/hobby/sport (definitely not a sport, in MY opinion) the same
way I do, or it's not the correct way to do it. What I'm saying
is, SOME people place caches in urban places under the guise of either
not having the time/resources/equipment/etc., when the real reason is,
that they're too LAZY to either place or seek a cache in a more
desirable (in MY opinion) location. I don't understand what kind of
enjoyment somebody derives from finding an Altoids container in a bush
at the mall. When somebody questions this type of geocaching, many of
you folks get up in arms and defensive. I guess I must have struck a
nerve with some of you. Good! Maybe some of you will consider putting a
little more effort into hiding your caches in the future. If you truly
want to have a family "bonding" experience, take the kids and the dog
on a ride in our beautiful desert or mountains and find a cache with a
view, instead of the parking lot at Wal-mart or the back wall of
Walgreens. As I've said before, some of the cachers around here, take
this game/hobby way too seriously. Others use it a social network, but
that's another topic to peruse. Anyway, if you enjoy your Circle K
caches, have at it, and don't let ME threaten you're caching world.
Maybe I'll get the chance to meet some of you out in the boonies,
someday. Naw, probably not................</div>
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href="mailto:steve@stringhams.org">Steven Stringham</a> </div>
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Monday, December 29, 2008 9:18 PM</div>
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Re: [Az-Geocaching] Why I became a Premium Member</div>
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ACM, I do believe I was reacting to AZPaul's reaction to Finley's post,
not to Regan's post. Fish may not have said it, but Finley did.<br>
<br>
"I think many urban park/parking lot/electrical boxes/sprinkler head
cachers use the excuse that these caches are hidden for those who just
can't do the hiking or off-road caches due to physical limitations,
wrong vehicle, or time constraints. That's baloney. I feel empathy for
those who really are handicapped, but that group of cachers is a very
small minority of the total caching crowd. "<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
AZcachemeister wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:49596BDE.8050600@getnet.net" type="cite">Whoa!
<big><big>Whoa!</big></big> <big><big><big>WHOA!<br>
<small><small><small>Y'all are goin' WAY off on another tangent
totally unrelated to the ORIGINAL POST!<br>
<br>
The FISH did not say anything about micros vs. regulars.<br>
The FISH did not compare the relative worthyness of urban vs. rural.<br>
The FISH did not even comment on the issue of so many monotimeous hides
in parks that all seem the same.<br>
<br>
HMMM! So what is the FISH really saying?<br>
Have another read. We'll wait.<br>
<br>
Meanwhile, I will point out that the IGNORE button is only helpful (and
really only necessary) if you are a Premium Member.<br>
The BUTTON only allows one to keep certain distasteful cache listings
(whatever that might be to you) out of ones Pocket Query, those caches
will still be displayed on maps and in lists one might view online.<br>
<br>
You are welcome, Mr. FISH!<br>
<br>
ACM<br>
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Regan Smith wrote:
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Know I really didn't want to pay for a Premium Membership, as for the
many years prior Geocaching was about the Geo taking the GPS putting in
coordinates and finding a cache outside..<br>
<br>
Now as if a bad plague I felt it very necessary for me to pay to Ignore
armchair caching, Have all the good stand alone caching locations been
taken that you have to add sitting infront of the computer playing math
and phone games before going out to enjoy the outdoors. Has climate
change done so much to ruin wanting to spend time outside????<br>
<br>
When Dave Ulmer hid his cache he said come and find it, now how many
take the trip to see that spot??.. Yes times change but the principle
of here is a cache and go find it should not be perverted.<br>
<br>
<br>
I was told by Alex months ago if you do not like that type of hide why
hide one like it? I so want to hide a more devious cache page cache so
all the minority cachers can bitch and moan at their lack of
understanding my logic but will not pervert the game any more. but the
lock and cable will remain....<br>
<br>
Just like giving the challenge to a few other cacher about stepping up
their game I will add now Keep it up.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks ACM for the enlightenment of the Ignore button<br>
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